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Genie1
08-19-2007, 06:53 PM
Hi to all members of CodingForums,

I have been studying on and off a book called "begining programing with java" and the reason why i wanted to study it, was because one i want to become a programmer and two i will be doing it at UNI, But the help that i need from you all is
that as i am going to be studying in uni which starts in September, our first module is HTML and very basic coding, i am afraid if i concentrate to much on Java and not learn what the uni stuff is i might just fail it, i am also afraid of that if i concentrate on the uni stuff i might forget java.

And as i am starting both things new, i feel as i have more chance of forgetting.

WHAT should i do??
Please some one show me some kind of guidance.

Thank you for your help and time
Have a good day

Genie:)

jkim
08-20-2007, 02:15 AM
HTML is not worth "learning". You should be able to just use it straight off by reading the specs. Don't waste your private time with HTML and go learn Java if programming's your desire, although I'd suggest you learn C before java.

You can become an "expert HTML coder" by being a no brain monkey. Just read the specs on the W3C site, and after 2 - 3 days of reading + practising examples, you should easily be an "expert".

WWW Consortium (http://www.w3c.org)

Genie1
08-20-2007, 06:44 PM
Thank you for your reply & thanks for the link. If its okay with you could you explain why i should learn C first and then learn Java? Or is it because it is easy to understand C (beginer)?

As i have read some of Java, i find it easy to understand and i feel if i can learn java, and then move on to C i will be able to understand the basic languages very easily (am i right)

Also can you please tell me if you are a programmer, what you did to learn the languages. So that i can see if i am at the correct path

Thank you
Genie
Have a good day

TheShaner
08-20-2007, 07:35 PM
You should read these two threads:
http://codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=120349 (esp. this one)
and
http://codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=118663

-Shane

Aradon
08-20-2007, 08:53 PM
Thank you for your reply & thanks for the link. If its okay with you could you explain why i should learn C first and then learn Java? Or is it because it is easy to understand C (beginer)?

As i have read some of Java, i find it easy to understand and i feel if i can learn java, and then move on to C i will be able to understand the basic languages very easily (am i right)

Also can you please tell me if you are a programmer, what you did to learn the languages. So that i can see if i am at the correct path

Thank you
Genie
Have a good day

This idea that C is better then Java has been debated back and forth on many forums, including this one (if you read through those posts there). It's best to say that you should do what you feel most comfortable with. Just make sure to learn everything about the language, including what is going on in the background so that you can also grasp concepts of programming while learning.

In all honesty, you should just learn a C like language (C, C++, or Java) and you should be able to move that onto many other languages.

oracleguy
08-20-2007, 10:29 PM
And if you are about to be learning Java at school, you might as well stick with that for now.

As for learning HTML, I dunno if reading the W3C specs are the easiest way to learn but you can read like the tutorials at www.w3schools.com on HTML and get the hang of it fairly easily.

croatiankid
08-21-2007, 08:41 AM
I personally wouldn't even bother learning Java in depth before University, because that's exactly what you'll be doing there, so you have nothing to worry about, except if the uni is expecting you to know Java already (which it most likely doesn't). You seem to be forgetting that you're going to uni to learn Java, not (only) be tested on it.

Genie1
08-21-2007, 06:23 PM
:) thank you to every one who has took some time out to reply to my topic and helping me out.

"I personally wouldn't even bother learning Java in depth before University, because that's exactly what you'll be doing there" From croatiankid

That is true and i have just read exactly what i will be doing and it says
"You will learn

the fundamental concepts associated with object-oriented programming (object, class, protocol, hierarchy, inheritance, encapsulation, polymorphism, collaboration, etc.)

to apply and extend your knowledge of programming concepts within an object-oriented programming context."

So i assume that it will tell me the stuff that i need to do my exams and essays.

And once more thank you
Have a good day :)

Gox
08-22-2007, 02:35 AM
Having a general understanding of Object-Oriented Programming will only help you, not hinder you. If you have the time to learn some Java and OOP on your own before school starts then it'll only make things easier.

Good Luck!

Genie1
09-25-2007, 06:09 PM
First of all sorry for a late reply as i got busy with stuff, but back again with problems.

The problem is that i want to learn Programing and Web desining.

Can some one here please tell me what i should learn first so the second gets easy?

So far i have thought of it like this, should i follow it as a guide?

1.HTML (know that now)
2.CSS
3.PHP
4.Java Script

1.C,C++,C#
2.VB
3.Java

Is der anything i should learn first to make my life easy?
and should i follow this guide?

Thank you to anyone who reads and make a post.
Have a good day :)

brad211987
09-25-2007, 09:24 PM
Going from the C family of languages to VB, and then to Java could be difficult, as Java is similar to C++ in many ways. If those items are what you have in mind, I would just switch Java and VB. Other than that, I see nothing wrong with what you laid out there. Just be sure to really develop your understanding in the concepts and what goes on underneath all of the syntax, and you shouldn't have much trouble moving from language to language.



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