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srule_
07-23-2007, 12:27 AM
Why is photoshop so much more popular then illustrator?

From what i know photoshop is ment for editing photos while illustrator is better for vector objects.

Do to the fact that most of the graphics needed for web-design are vector based why does it seem so many people use photoshop and not illustrator?

nolvorite
07-23-2007, 02:22 AM
photoshop is the mother of all graphical editors and thereof will own everyone . . .

VIPStephan
07-23-2007, 02:57 AM
Many professional graphic designers use Illustrator. However, I guess the reason is because Illustrator is more made to create graphics for print, e.g. posters, logos, etc., and it’s a little too much just to create websites because a simpler and cheaper program like Photoshop is working just as good.

The best program for website design is Fireworks, though, as this is actually made for such a purpose. You can create vector objects, have a lot of shapes, and many functions are just “ready-made” to create website designs where you would have to perform some more tasks in Photoshop to get the same results (after all, PS is actually a photo editing software). And it’s also specialized in exporting graphics for the web.

evo
07-23-2007, 09:03 AM
Fireworks is superb. I personally use Illustrator for near everything, and photoshop primarily for advanced shading effects and general photo manipulation of any linked CT's I may have.

srule_
07-23-2007, 02:09 PM
How is the learning curve between photoshop and Illustrator? I'm guessing they are similar? I personally use photoshop but only because when i was choosing a program i could find way photoshop tutorials to help me learn.

evo
07-23-2007, 03:05 PM
It depends on how far you'd like to take the packages and design, as with any software, the more complex the desired result, the more knowledge needed to execute it.

To get out simpler results, they are both very friendly to use.

srule_
07-23-2007, 03:11 PM
Just need it for basic web graphics.

ie: Banners,gradients, Curves to make divs have rounded corners, ect...

i'm sure photoshop works fine for my minimal requirments, however i am considering going to illustrator as most stuff i will ever require to do is vector based so as my skills/knowladge grow i might as well learn with the more suitible software.

VIPStephan
07-23-2007, 04:54 PM
I’m not getting paid for endorsing it in any way but for those simple tasks Fireworks is still the perfect program for you. For example, there is the “rounded rectancle” tool where you draw it, and you can change the roundness of each individual corner on the fly. There are other auto shapes like stars (where you can change the number, size, and roundness of the points/tips with one click), donuts (circle with hole in it whose size you can change), arrows, spirals, and all kinds of scalable vector objects that can be edited to get any effect you want. And with the pen tool you can draw your own vector objects and modify their look in any way you want. You can even convert text to a vector and change its shape.
You can have gradients of all kinds, shapes, and colors, textured backgrounds and background patterns (which you also can create yourself for future use) and what not.

One could say it like this: Firworks is the best of Photoshop and Illustrator in one piece. :D Well, not exactly but it is damn easy to use for the things you descirbed. And for help and tutorials there is http://www.fireworksguruforum.com/

_Aerospace_Eng_
07-23-2007, 05:36 PM
And now with Adobe buying out Macromedia, Fireworks is more compatible when it comes to reading psd files since the release of FW 9.

Graft-Creative
07-23-2007, 06:54 PM
Do to the fact that most of the graphics needed for web-design are vector based...

That is simply not true - unless we are talking Flash or SVG - all common graphic formats on the web are bitmap based.

Sure you can use a vector based program to create your images, but as soon as you export them as jpegs, pngs etc. - they become bitmaps.

And which is the greatest bitmap editor around....

Photoshop :)

Gary

srule_
07-23-2007, 08:19 PM
mm yes, i am by no means any expert so what i say is not meant to be quoted, (unless it is quoted as an example of what is wrong, as u just did.. haha)

anyway i was talking more along the lines of creating objects, not editing them.

Also, i was favoring illustrator over fireworks for the simple fact that i am assuming it's interface is similar to photoshop, making it easier for me to pick up (and switch back and forth depending on my task)

StupidRalph
07-23-2007, 09:00 PM
My personal experience as a Photoshop enthusiast was a difficult transition into Illustrator. I plan on adding Fireworks into my arsenal very soon. I think the best thing you can do is download the trial versions of both (or other) applications and let that be the deciding factor.

kewlOmania
07-29-2007, 09:51 AM
Many professional graphic designers use Illustrator. However, I guess the reason is because Illustrator is more made to create graphics for print, e.g. posters, logos, etc., and it’s a little too much just to create websites because a simpler and cheaper program like Photoshop is working just as good.

The best program for website design is Fireworks, though, as this is actually made for such a purpose. You can create vector objects, have a lot of shapes, and many functions are just “ready-made” to create website designs where you would have to perform some more tasks in Photoshop to get the same results (after all, PS is actually a photo editing software). And it’s also specialized in exporting graphics for the web.

May I remind you the new CS3 goes hand in hand with the CS3 suite? The programs automatically know you've got more than one CS3 product on the pc and will make the option of converting what's in program1 to program2.

I do like Fireworks for making roll overs, makes it much easier.

lithriel
08-17-2007, 06:24 PM
I have used quite a bit of software out there and there are pros and cons to all of them. Illustrator is for print. Fireworks is decent but not as powerful as Photoshop (if you really know your way around).

I use Photoshop to design the initial look of my website, then I code it using CSS and XHTML. It's way more powerful than other programs and is better suited for the bitmap nature of web graphics. It too has an excellent web export option. In CS2 you can even do simple rollovers in no time (I used to have to do them in ImageReady). And now that Adobe has merged with Macromedia I foresee improvements implementing the finest aspects of both software.

VIPStephan
08-17-2007, 09:25 PM
In CS2 you can even do simple rollovers in no time…

I suppose this is a JavaScript based “solution”? Not good. They should be done with CSS as well.

lithriel
08-18-2007, 09:02 PM
No, I only make the images for rollover effects. I do not use Photoshop to code anything.

But Srule, perhaps in the future Fireworks will become as efficient as Photoshop for the type of work I use it for now that it has merged with Adobe. I'd keep your eyes open.

BeatShot
08-20-2007, 01:57 PM
Photoshop is simply the most powerful graphics software out here.

But the best result you can get with CS 3 when using diffrent software
for diffrent thing.

In Example I use

Design my layout in Photoshop.
Illustrator , for Logos & Icons.
Add some effects to buttons or banner with flash.
Create xhtml & css with dreamweawer.
And php to add functions to my website.

VIPStephan
08-20-2007, 03:49 PM
Photoshop is as the name implies a photo editing software by nature and actually designing websites with it is way more complicated than with Fireworks which is made for exactly that purpose. Even Illustrator is better for website design if you’re not only working with photos because with Photoshop you can’t create and edit real vector shapes. Things like rounded rectangles are way more complicated to produce with Photoshop than with Illustrator or Fireworks so actually Photoshop ain’t that powerful if you were really designing for the web.

BeatShot
08-20-2007, 04:03 PM
It was originally created for that purpose.
With time more & more webdesigners use it for designing webs ,
So they have edited their software.

Why is creating rounded rectangles complicated with PS ?
It's easy.If you know how.

PS have tons of more features which makes it more powerful than any other graphics software.

Photoshop gives you more freedom creating web more than any other software.



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