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Rubby
07-06-2007, 09:04 PM
This post might be a bad idea, but I really need some opinions on this.
I currently doing pages for 2 different independent video producers and an obvious question has arisen as I write the pages: "What video format and media player should I use?" I've searched on other forums (and this one) but this type of discussion always seems to turn into format arguments.
Here's the deal: I need the most overall "universal" format and media player. Neither client bought space on video servers so viewing the video is going to be progressive download. One of the folks is very concerned about the quality of the video (it's his demo reel) so I've ruled out *.swf as I've gotten the impression that the compression flash uses has a tendency to jeopardize quality. Basically right now I'm deciding between *.mov/quicktime and *.wmv/MediaPlayer. I've ruled *.rm/Real out because quite frankly I hate the player. So what do you guys suggest? Any preferences? Thanks

pepsi_max2k
07-06-2007, 11:59 PM
divx. no contest. well...

wmv is proprietary windows, no one else can use it (legally) without a license, so many dvd / portable players are out, no linux / mac users... legally... mostly the same with quicktime. divx is a perfect compromise between quality & file size, and will work almost everywhere. only downside is it's also proprietary, so personally i'd use the open xvid codec, afaik compatible with just as much stuff as divx, though most people probably already have divx codec installed and not xvid.

media player... most would leave that to the user. wmp in windows will play divx fine (with codec installed), same in linux / mac. obviously wmp will be most widely used in windows, not sure about mac, alot will use mplayer in linux and it's available on windows too, but something like vnc is available for many different systems, just not as many people will already have it.

though yeah, if you're just giving stuff to windows users, the wmv problem ain't a problem, and no one will need to install new codecs either.

_Aerospace_Eng_
07-07-2007, 12:46 AM
divx. no contest. well...

wmv is proprietary windows, no one else can use it (legally) without a license, so many dvd / portable players are out, no linux / mac users... legally... mostly the same with quicktime. divx is a perfect compromise between quality & file size, and will work almost everywhere. only downside is it's also proprietary, so personally i'd use the open xvid codec, afaik compatible with just as much stuff as divx, though most people probably already have divx codec installed and not xvid.

media player... most would leave that to the user. wmp in windows will play divx fine (with codec installed), same in linux / mac. obviously wmp will be most widely used in windows, not sure about mac, alot will use mplayer in linux and it's available on windows too, but something like vnc is available for many different systems, just not as many people will already have it.

though yeah, if you're just giving stuff to windows users, the wmv problem ain't a problem, and no one will need to install new codecs either.

I do believe they were talking about online videos. Of course any external can play a video given that the user has the right codecs but a browser isn't going to have all of the codecs in the world.

.mov is good but not everyone has quicktime or will much less even install it. wmv is decent but again its Windows proprietary. I think the most universal format is still .flv (flash video). If you have a proper encoder like the one that comes with Flash 8 or Flash CS3 then you won't lose hardly any quality at all if you use the highest setting. Video sizes will probably be the same size as the original if not smaller. If you intend on allowing uses to view the video then .mov is probably better because if people want to watch the video badly enough they'll download quicktime.

CSSisthebest
07-18-2007, 08:28 PM
yes, i agree with the above comment flash is the most universal for the net, doesn't matter if you have a mac or a PC you can play flash movies in your browser. with flash although the viewer might have to download the latest version if you export it for it to use version 8 but you can change the version settings in export movie



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