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ash_cara
12-11-2002, 10:10 AM
CSS and Dreamweaver

I am novice with Dreamweaver and CSS.

My question is:

Do I first plan the site and then add the CSS or should I first decide what goes in my CSS?

Thanks

El

ronaldb66
12-11-2002, 10:28 AM
I only took a first quick look at Dreamweaver last weekend, so could you help me along as to what "planning the site" entails? I'd say CSS comes into play when you reach the stage of laying out your pages and deciding on looks and such; i got the impression Dreamweaver leans strongly on using templates, so when creating a template you definitely have to dive into CSS as well.

ash_cara
12-11-2002, 10:35 AM
Ronald,

what I mean by planning the site is:

1) decide the number of pages
2)what page contains what
3)the page layout (frames, no frames, tables etc etc)

Have I answered the question?

El

ionsurge
12-11-2002, 11:15 AM
You have answered the question, seeing as you would have to plan what your site will have to entail in order to create a .css file to allow you to make sure that you know what you want to format with the .css file.


If you need anyhelp let me know, and I will see what I can do. :)



Ionsurge.

brothercake
12-11-2002, 11:57 AM
I would say, start with your content and lay it out with no CSS or other style information at all, to the point where it's coherent and basically laid out in a logical manner.

Then add CSS

Kiwi
12-11-2002, 12:10 PM
I go about designing sites a little differently, I think.

I start with a basic layout -- which I usually prepare on paper or in photoshop. Then I go about building the layout. At this stage, I use an internal stylesheet to control the layout.

Once I'm happy with the basic layout, I shift the style definitions to an external sheet and start tweaking it.

Of course, then I usually break the page up and template it in php, but that's a step you probably don't need to worry about now.

brothercake
12-11-2002, 12:44 PM
I start with content and functionality; design is usually the final stage for me.

Interesting ...

Kiwi
12-11-2002, 02:00 PM
Content and functionality is (and should be) developed entirely independently of presentation. html (including css) is irrelevant for content. But when you start thinking about presentation, you might as well do it 'properly' right from the start.

ash_cara
12-11-2002, 02:07 PM
Thanks to everybody.

One final question with ref to Brothercake

"I would say, start with your content and lay it out with no CSS or other style information at all, to the point where it's coherent and basically laid out in a logical manner.

Then add CSS"


At which point in time? After I have finished the home page or when I am about to start the homepage?

My guess is when I am starting the homepage. I just want to be sure

Thanks

El

ionsurge
12-11-2002, 02:48 PM
After you have finished making the homepage. :)



Ionsurge.

brothercake
12-11-2002, 02:53 PM
Yes - then you have a design template based on the actual content of your pages.

More specifically, I'm talking about using the best HTML logic you can before looking at CSS. For example:

<h2>Welcome</h2>

<p>Welcome to my website. <b>I hope you like it</b></p>


Now that's coherent in any browser, all the way down to text-only and legacy browsers. Working with a text-only browser is actually very useful - it helps you to get an idea of how a page will appear to a SE or a speaking-browser.

Once you have that, you don't need to worry about it anymore. Go wild with CSS safe in the knowledge that accessibility and degradability is all but taken care of.

applesauce
12-11-2002, 05:17 PM
kiwi

check the url on your sig

i think you have an extra character in there

Kiwi
12-11-2002, 05:36 PM
oops. fixed. thanks.

applesauce
12-11-2002, 05:37 PM
:D

zoobie
12-11-2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by ash_cara
At which point in time?

I believe this should be done right after lunch. http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/lol.gif



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