DOM Dumb! visibility?

[ez4ne12c]

if i have a span like this

<span id='fred' style='visibility: hidden;'><img src='picture.gif'></img></span>

how can i check if the image is visible.. i have tried

if (document.fred.style.visibility=='hidden') {alert ("wheres FRED!!!");}

but i dont really think that works

any ideas please?
ez

[Vladdy]

First of all "document.fred." is not DOM... kinda reminds me of a saying "Bad dancer blames his balls for getting in his way"...
Second, if you set visibility to "hidden" in your style it will be hidden, why check for it :confused: :confused:

[glenngv]

if (document.getElementById("fred").style.visibility=='hidden') {alert ("wheres FRED!!!");}

btw, it's not DOM :)

[ez4ne12c]

Thanks for replies
hey Vladdy i have that problem when i dance too!!
i am toggling the visiblility, hence the question...
oh.. i put in title DOM dumb ... which does indicate my DOM knowledge

Thanks
ez

[Vladdy]

when you set default style in your html file the style.visibility property is NOT set to this value. IE does set currentStyle collection values and Gecko does nothing.
Therefore in you your "flipping" function test for the "other" value.

if((fred=document.getElementById("fred")).style.visibility=='visible') fred.style.visibility = 'hidden';
else fred.style.visibility = 'visible';

so that your else{} code executes first.

[ez4ne12c]

Thanks again
i will try that
ez