what do you think about this setup for new comp?

[alapimba]

INTEL Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz BOX 225,75 €
ASUS P5B-E* 137,50 €
2x TWINMOS 1GB DDR2 667MHz PC5300 172,00 €
ASUS GeForce 7600GT 256MB DDR3 PCI-E - EN7600GT/2DHT* 146,25 €
3RSYSTEM R202 Preto* 28,50 €
LC POWER 550W Ventoínha 140mm Silent - LC6550G 42,25 €
WESTERN DIGITAL 250GB Serial ATA II 16MB 7200 RPM - WD2500KS 80,50 €
DRIVE DISQUETES 3.5 Preta 9,25 €
LG H12N 18X Double Layer Preto Bulk 34,00 €
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Premium 32-Bit Inglês DVD OEM* 140,00 €
Configuração, teste e montagem* 20,00 €

I don't do games. it's just to make sites and some rendrings of videos. photoshop, ilustrator, flash dreamweaver... and some premiere.

I don't know if i should buy 800mhz memories because i don't wanted to spend that extra money (about 80€ more)
Should i go for windows vista or stick on win xp? the price is the same..

[oracleguy]

Go with 800Mhz DDR2 or if you can afford it, 1066MHz. But I mean you don't have to.

And you are getting ripped off on that memory, you should be able to get 800MHz stuff for that price. (And I realize you listed it in non-US dollars, I did a conversion) At least in the US you can; you might want to shop around a little bit.

[Jeroentje]

I agree on the memorypart. Even tho it's a total of 2GB, faster should be avaible for less.

[gsnedders]

And you are getting ripped off on that memory, you should be able to get 800MHz stuff for that price. (And I realize you listed it in non-US dollars, I did a conversion) At least in the US you can; you might want to shop around a little bit.
Under those prices in EUR it's cheaper than in GBP.

[ghell]

I can't even get the price he's quoted from crucial (which is usually quite cheap and has free delivery).

2*1GB PC2-5300 (667) 240pinn DDR2 = €189.16
http://www.crucial.com/eu/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=CT2KIT12872AA667

2*1GB PC2-6400 (800) 240pinn DDR2 = €269.06
http://www.crucial.com/eu/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=CT2KIT12864AA80E

so oracleguy must have some really good shop over there :P

Someone should probably point out that using an OEM operating system for personal use is illegal (they are made for people who build computers from parts and sell them as a whole computer) although windows retail is incredibly expensive and microsoft has a policy of not reducing software price after time (though indevidual shops may reduce the price to clear stock or gain customers when the operating system becomes old)

If you are getting a Core 2 Duo processor, why not get a 64bit operating system? I know there is quite a bit of stuff that doesn't work on 64bit properly at the moment, but I expect with the release of Vista x64, that will probably change in the near future.

You may also wish to consider an Asus P5N ... or P6... motherboard for future expansion (I think P5B is meant for pentium4 and P5N is meant for core2duo anyway, but I could be wrong, some P5Bs have "supports Core 2 Duo" on them, but appear in the Pentium4 motherboards section of every site I look at.. anyone know the diff in these?)

[oracleguy]

so oracleguy must have some really good shop over there :P

I think I looked a local store and online at newegg.com

Someone should probably point out that using an OEM operating system for personal use is illegal (they are made for people who build computers from parts and sell them as a whole computer) although windows retail is incredibly expensive and microsoft has a policy of not reducing software price after time (though indevidual shops may reduce the price to clear stock or gain customers when the operating system becomes old)

That is incorrect. The OEM copy just has to be sold with a new computer and doesn't come with any of the like phone support from Microsoft that the retail version does. So typically the OEM copy just has to be sold with qualifying hardware like a CPU. And the OEM copies don't have transferable licenses like the retail copies but if you don't plan on transfering it and not relying on M$ for diagnosing problems with your computer, the OEM version is very cost effective way to go. But it is by no means illegal.

[Karen S. Garvin]

So typically the OEM copy just has to be sold with qualifying hardware like a CPU. And the OEM copies don't have transferable licenses like the retail copies...

Yeah, this just bit me. I am upgrading hardware and I wanted to re-use my hard drive. But my new motherboard won't have it. I can't re-install my current operating system on a new hard drive because it was OEM and won't work on anything other than the e-machine it came off of.

Another $200 spent in the pursuit of happiness... :o

[ghell]

OEM software is not hardware dependant, eMachines use a recovery disk which may be hardware dependant though, but it is not a standard windows oem disk.

However, the windows vista OEM licence is definately for "System Builders Only" and contains information on preinstallation kits and distribution licences (I have an OEM copy of Vista Ultimate x64 with me here and the book that comes with it is very explicit about it only for being shipped with a working system (along with all support from your customers is your problem not microsofts etc))

I'm not legally minded so I could have misinterprated all this but it seemed pretty clear to me.

More information can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/oem/default.mspx which I'm too lazy to read myself so if there is something on there that contradicts me then just ignore me :rolleyes:

[oracleguy]

Yeah, but if you buy the OS from an OEM reseller, you just have to buy any combination of hardware that counts as a new computer. (e.g. processor, motherboard, etc.)

Here is a well put way:
This OEM software is intended for system builders only and cannot be transferred to another PC once it is installed. The purchaser of this software is required to comply with the terms of the System Builder license, including the responsibility of providing all end user support for the software.

[VIPStephan]

[...] in non-US dollars [...]

Tisk, tisk, tisk...
Might not be the right time and place to say that but that sounds sooo typical American. :p

[Spookster]

Tisk, tisk, tisk...
Might not be the right time and place to say that but that sounds sooo typical American. :p

says the typical German.

[VIPStephan]

By the way: ...ah, I'll put it in the right section (http://codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=107645)...