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daniel_g
12-27-2006, 08:17 AM
Have any of you actually wondered how will Windows XP die?
When I bought my most recent computer, I was actually debating on getting a PC or a Mac. My choice was the PC, with WinXP-pro, the reason: Games. Come to think about it, my old Windows98 computer still works to perfection, to this date, I haven't found a task that WinXP will do better than Win98, with the exception of games.

There is one feature that looks appealing, that is, increased system security. But as I have discovered, there's no threat that third party applications can't handle, and for the most part, those applications are free in their most basic ways. When I feel like using a different interface, or if I want to add that extra sense of security, I just reboot and load FC5. No sweat, it only takes about 30 seconds.

I think there are really no reasons for me to change to Vista, so I can conclude my WindowsXP won't die.... That is, as long as they keep making games for it, or as long as my hardware supports it.

So my forecast is that high end games will actually kill Windows XP in the future. Maybe Microsoft already knows that, and that's why they created FSX, to show us gamers that sooner or later we will need to upgrade that hardware(FSX looks bad even with a 256MB GPU. DX10 promises to solve the issues, but that's designed for Vista...), and Windows XP will not be able to keep up with those upgrades.

As far as non-gamers: I think the launch of Vista is actually a great opportunity for Mac to catch up. Windows XP users will stop getting support from Microsoft(dunno when, but it will happen). That will make a lot of people migrate to something else. Maybe apple is starting to realize that, and perhaps that's why we are seeing those funky ads comparing the PC guy and the Macintosh guy. The day Vista comes out, the add will probably be the PC guy trying to be just like the Mac guy in a ridiculous way.

Well, those are my thoughts. Anyone that has a different point of view, please share it.

alphomega
12-27-2006, 10:14 AM
I remember a lot of talk when XP came out. Whereas windows 95 and 98 were very similar, 98 to XP was quite different. I think Microsoft has more worries of competition these days and the mac are very good machines. I think the main drive for vista was to create a system with more attention to security (XP has been poor in this area) to re-install marketplace confidence back into their products. I also think the reason that vista looks so damm cool is to help stop mac getting more market share. Of course macs have a niche but the generall feeling from no techie computer owners is macs look better, or used to.

That said there is still a road ahed of microsoft that may not be looking as solid as it used to. Since XP macs have improved loads, but so has linux. We have FC better than ever and ubuntu sprang up in XP's lifetime.

I think MS will carry on dominating the desktop market for the next few years but I feel there is a growing chance they may loose large chunks of their dominance in the future.

As for how will XP die. I think that more and more these days people do not upgrade their operating systems, instead just buy whole new pc's. I think XP will die over the next couple of years due the amount of new computer sales. I think the avergae computer life these days is 2.5 to 3 yearsm which markes the death of xp

VIPStephan
12-27-2006, 10:45 AM
Have any of you actually wondered how will Windows XP die?
When I bought my most recent computer, I was actually debating on getting a PC or a Mac.

I had to make this decision too, and I already did so and I'm very proud of my decision. :) Windows is almost dead for me already (except of using those browsers for testing).

oracleguy
12-27-2006, 11:23 AM
Well Microsoft making DX10 only for Vista is more than likely just another one of their ways to force people to upgrade. It is sort of like something I read when Office 2003 came out, that said Microsoft's biggest competitor was themselves. And if you think about it, it makes sense, they have to give people a reason to upgrade (willingly or not). And Vista just doesn't seem to have too many. They are going for that craze they had when Windows 95 came out and people waited until midnight so they could go in and buy it.

XP is going to be around for a long time. Windows 98 is finally starting to really go away and its been out for 8 years. XP will be around for at least that long but I'd suspect longer since in comparison to 98, it is actually a fairly good OS once you patch it and run a good browser and good anti-virus and such. And it will still run fine on a 500mhz computer with 256mb of ram.

croatiankid
12-27-2006, 12:32 PM
Isn't there some "awesome" game that's going to require Vista? Also, I can imagine that soon games will start requiring Vista.

oracleguy
12-27-2006, 07:43 PM
Well once the games require DX10, they will require Vista since Microsoft has chosen to make DX10 only for Vista.

Metroid48
12-30-2006, 05:47 AM
Right now, Vista sucks in my opinion, so I likely won't move to it. However, if I buy a new computer, I will likely end up getting a Vista one. I'd do it when the time's right.

However, I also use Linux. I just don't think that'll happen on a massive scale, though.

xconspirisist
12-30-2006, 07:00 AM
I only have an install of windows for lan parties and the odd game. I cannot do any of the things I like doing on windows anymore for various reasons. Besides, Linux is so damned good now-a-days, it makes sense for me to use that. It's free too. I also like it because I can contribute activly to it's development, even if it's just a few bugzilla reports, I know Linux developers listen to their users which I think is a fact that has made Microsoft loose face over time.

vinyl-junkie
12-30-2006, 08:17 AM
I was a beta tester for Vista, and I really like it. Interestingly though, I have my PC in the shop right now to have them remove Vista and put XP Pro back on it (don't get me started on how hard Vista was to try and remove myself). Anyway, the main reasons for removing it are that my printer and scanner don't work with it, plus a few pieces of desktop software I use a lot that are incompatible with it. I'm sure those things will be remedied in time, but I'm just not willing to live without them any longer.

Microsoft has said that they will ship the full product to their beta testers, which I think is great. I'll probably wait though to use it until I either get another computer or until the desktop software I use catches up with it.

oracleguy
12-30-2006, 10:43 AM
I was a beta tester for Vista, and I really like it. Interestingly though, I have my PC in the shop right now to have them remove Vista and put XP Pro back on it (don't get me started on how hard Vista was to try and remove myself). Anyway, the main reasons for removing it are that my printer and scanner don't work with it, plus a few pieces of desktop software I use a lot that are incompatible with it. I'm sure those things will be remedied in time, but I'm just not willing to live without them any longer.

That's really weird, I heard of similar issues but were fixed by this program: http://dban.sourceforge.net/

vinyl-junkie
12-30-2006, 05:23 PM
In regards to removing Vista:

That's really weird, I heard of similar issues but were fixed by this program: http://dban.sourceforge.net/
I wish I could have known about this sooner so I could have tried it before having the computer store do the job for me. I Googled a lot for answers to my problem, and found a lot of complaining about Vista in this regard. Some people were successful with the various techniques they reported, but none of those same techniques worked for me.

One other thing that I failed to mention is that Microsoft partnered with a company called Trend Micro to provide anti-virus software for its beta testers. I haven't found any other anti-virus software besides this which is compatible with Vista, and the license expires on December 31. That hasn't given me a lot of time to mess around. In addition, we had a storm which knocked out our power over the weekend a couple of weeks ago; otherwise, I would have started on this problem much sooner.



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